The Great Tariff Debate with David Sacks, Larry Summers, and Ezra Klein

In this episode, the conversation kicks off with reactions to Trump's strategic decision to target China by postponing other reciprocal tariffs. The discussion evaluates success measures for tariffs and debates the consequences of China's entry into the WTO. The question of whether the US is being exploited in trade agreements and if free trade was a misstep is explored. The team assesses the likelihood of a recession and the Trump administration's methods for information gathering. Shifting focus to politics, the future trajectory of the Democratic Party and the concept of an abundance agenda are examined. The episode concludes with reflections on a recent debate and Chamath's insights from the Breakthrough Prize Ceremony.

Speakers

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Larry Summers

Guest • 23%

Ezra Klein

Guest • 22%

Chamath Palihapitiya

Host • 23%

Jason Calacanis

Host • 15%

David Sacks

Host • 17%

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Chapters

0:00	Bestie intros!
0:58	Reacting to Trump targeting China and postponing all other reciprocal tariffs
21:21	Measures for success of tariffs, debating the impact of letting China into the WTO
46:14	Is the US being exploited on trade? Was free trade a mistake?
1:02:01	Recession chances, How the Trump administration gathers information
1:19:39	Future of the Democratic Party, Abundance agenda, DOGE
1:51:00	The Besties recap the debate and Chamath recaps the Breakthrough Prize Ceremony

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